Unarmed, he was unarmed. There cant be trust without justice.
I really think all cities over a certain size should start requiring the officers to have recording cameras mounted on their persons, as they do in their car. There needs to be a record so that here say is not allowed in a court of law.We also need to change the courts ruling that any force is acceptable.Beyond this, start giving the black community their appropriate representation locally and nationally. Start with the police force and look closely at how some gerrymandering has eliminated the access to government of many groups of people.
The TV coverage las night showed the phalanx of armored vehicles slowly moving down the street while smoke grenades were being fired over the top into the street in front of them. Stretched across the street above the scene were the Christmas decorations proclaiming SEASONS GREETINGS! The irony was just too much to miss.
What does looting a liquor store have to do with redress from the legal process? It looked more like taking advantage of chaos to commit criminal acts.
The most credible witness said Brown, 6'5" and 289 pounds, was charging at the officer.
The President validated the rioters by saying their anger was justified. Not a word about the thoroughness of the Grand Jury proceedings or the rule of law. While it is tragic that an 18 year old was killed and there are real problems with trigger happy cops, the evidence points to a justified lethal confrontation with a violent sociopath, Obama is pandering to the black community - one largely disappointed in him - for selfish reasons. How low can the President sink?
The proven point which none of the protesters or 'civic leaders' who're excoriating the police acknowledge, is that after assaulting and robbing a shopkeeper, Brown attacked the officer in his cruiser. As someone who grew up in a very urban area, I know, and everyone in the neighborhood knew, if you attack a cop, you're chances of ending up dead increase significantly.
The Times coverage on this seems bizarrely one-sided and tends to avoid the evidence and facts. It's like they want people to riot. These are supposed to be news stories, not opinion, and yet there is a clear opinion being presented and an obvious bias in the facts.
Rudy Giuliani this morning commented to the effect that protests, peaceful protests, are fine, but that the moment a (property crime) window is broken or a car is struck, the handcuffs will go on and the arrests will begin. Doesn't that sound right? Law and order and peaceful protest. Dr. King. Gandhi. This is our key problem.A double standard exists at the core of these protests. It is not a racial problem. While racism appears to be endemic and to some degree institutional in Ferguson, the core problem is having one standard of law for the people in the community and another for the authorities. If a protester breaks a window he will be arrested and tried. If a police officer shoots and kills an unarmed suspect, the officer is almost never tried. Thus, even if Darren Wilson actually acted in self-defense and somehow needed to kill Michael Brown seconds before back-up arrived, it appears to many that his actions were part of a national problem of use of excessive and often lethal force by authorities in response to problems in communities of lower socio-economic stature.We hear of black-on-black crime, and clear statistics are cited. Yet, as the NYTimes has reported, there is no national data base on arrests and the use of force by police. Where are the maps of police use of force by zip code? Where are the graphs by race and social class? We do not see how serious this problem is because we choose not to see it. And thus we inherit the wind.
Obama really? How about this. Your justice system is a joke that penalizes and criminalizes the poor for the prison industrial complex. Look at the data. Never mind, if you did you would not make the stupid comment that you made. The Obama obsession is getting old.
Six shots for a minor facial abrasion? How did this warrant deadly force? The question that police forces are not addressing is why are these police escalating these situations to deadly force? Even if someone is belligerent? Don't they get training on how to de - escalate situations? My experience is that they are drunk with power and they get enraged when they are challenged. It is all about power and domination over another person - especially if that person is poor, you don't see this kind of behavior in rich neighborhoods. Until these behaviors are addressed, this will continue to happen.
I don't think you got all the facts. He was also trying to get the cops gun. He also charged at him outside the car. He was 300lbs.
sweetclafoutis: Look at all the evidence, all the testimony. Not only were the officer's actions justified: They were necessary. Else, he'd be dead.
When my kids used to tantrum, they learned rather quickly that didn't work. When they used their words, there was real communication and an opportunity for change. Who really thinks that burning things down will do any more than decimate all the hard work it took to build a community in the first place. It's like a double whammy - now they will not only have to re-build the faulty infrastructure that delivered such a shady verdict, they will have to spend their very tax dollars rebuilding what they burned down in a moment of frustration. As the saying goes - don't make a permanent decision for your temporary emotion.
Buildings, cars and neighborhoods looted and burning. The photos are shocking and disheartening. These "protestors" are supposed to be the good guys, fighting for justice? Seriously?
Yes I am surprised because they appear to be hurting the local shop owners who are part of their own community. Stupid and shameful.
And Wilson is 6'4' and 230lb. with a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Going to the grand jury was a foolish decision. Since the district attorney decides what evidence to produce and how to produce it, makes it look like a cover up. It would have been far wiser to present the case in an open courtroom where cross-examination would occur in public. I have no way of knowing whether the result would have been different. If it was the same, those who question the motives of the police and prosecution may have had their doubts addressed, possibly assuaged.
Try hitting a police officer in the face this afternoon and then report back how it worked out for you.
Anger is indeed justified, which doesn't mean or condone violence. The history of racism is detailed in this police department for decades and police have only ONCE been given a consequence. Until we come to terms with our biases we can make no progress. Denial is not working. (And tho irrelevant, I'm white.)